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...bye bye Asus W2V
well after a couple of weeks I think that the W2v is not for me at all. (again this is just for me) I just can't get used to some things such as:
- Fan noise ( this is terrible)
- Fan on the right side blowing hot air over my hand(when using a mouse)
- the keyboard is too far very close to the screen
- if you use photoshop (heavy files) it is very hard to work smoothly and move around.
- I upgraded the memory to 2GB almost no difference(keep ur money)
- Hardrive is very low even using a 5400rpm with 16mb cache(upgraded) no difference.
-TOOO hot (you have to undervolt..still hot)
-It is heavy to carry around (for me)
-Very very far from a desktop replacement (AT LEAST TO ME)
-Sound... well I think I do not have to put a lot of details on this part.
-the DVD is really noisy, if you try for example to browse a dvd with data !!!! wow that is noisy pal.
-Asus customer support is not good.(tried them)
So far those are the points that are making me sell this lappy, sad becasue its pretty but... I just can not live with those problems(FOR ME AT LEAST)
anyway... Thanks for the help, and this forum is really nice for lappy owners...
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What do you want to buy now??
I don't have so much problems at all.
Isn't it between the ears???
I never had such a fine notebook and if i have to do it al over again i buy this one again.
A pitty you have other experience, but tell us what you want to buy now.
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I will be back at a custom desktop computer and maybe for the money get a cheap small lappy. My mistake was to get this lappy as a main computer, that won't work for me... is like getting a fine harley for a car. You will never get the same but you have to try to tell first, so I did it.
Augi
What do you want to buy now??
I don't have so much problems at all.
Isn't it between the ears???
I never had such a fine notebook and if i have to do it al over again i buy this one again.
A pitty you have other experience, but tell us what you want to buy now.
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Yeah I would have to agree. If you are just working at home, there is no point in getting a laptop as your core workplace. It will always be slower than desktops and always have many more problems. I am using an old athlonxp computer that I built almost 4 years ago. It is faster in every respect than my z70va for some reason. This only has 512 megs of ram and my asus has 2gigs, which I find that performance is more due to the hard drive than the memory and the hard drives on computers are dang slow. Buying a small laptop would be good to use around the house like internet or something and maybe outings but not at home work.
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Hey no offense but. I think you are SUPER EXtremely PICKY. Extremely being an understatement. I ve seen all those complaints before about every single notebook we sell. My personal oppinion is that almost evrything you said is just super trivial with the exception of the last few lines. This is a huge problem for asus becuase they get the majority of extremely picky customers and the dealers have to cope as well. I think most of the top of your list is just whistle blowing. I mean comon....Hot air blowing? Heavy? Hott? What did you think you were getting? For anyone who reads this take what audix said with a grain of salt. This means that if you poll 100 random people about the notebook 99% of them will love it and not pick any of this out. There is always that 1% and asus usually is a target for the 1%. Now i would like to point out that your estimate of the notebooks power is inacurate you have to cmpare it to other mobiles not your desktop. You upgraded to a toshiba 16mb hdd? Thats the worst thing you can do in terms of reliability. Those drives have the worst reliability. You should have got a 7200rpm if you were upgrading. Not trying to pick you appart but the only valid claim you have is to the audio and the support. Everything else is just you. Its not too hot. Not at all. Infact its very normal. Stop touching it to feel how hot it is and it will not be hot. Thats a mildly irresponsible post there. You should write a warning on top "I am extremely picky take my comments with lots of grains of salt." On the other hand you have a right to be picky. You just downed 2500$ on a notebook. Expecting perfection is your right but its silly for you to actually belive that it would be.
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Umm I must agree with Eddie who beat me to the punch.
You guys are WAY too picky, expecting something unreal.
silverwolf0 you are over exaggerating, my Z70Va is just as fast as my AthlonXP custom desktop system overclocked like a #$@$# in some respects, but yes the desktop is faster in other respects.
Overall my laptop is just fast as my desktop. Sure the response is a bit slower on the laptop with it's 5400rpm harddrive. Even if you get a 7200rpm harddrive for your laptop it will still be slower than a desktop harddrive because of the technology desktop drives are faster.
Remember that your software installation and setup is also another possible reason why your laptop is SOOOOO NOTICEABLY slower than your desktop.
Many people complain of CRAPPY systems, but it is really your software not being properly installed and configured.
I'm sure the W2V gets pretty "HOT" as you say, but what do you expect with the hardware you're getting? Computer parts get HOT, but considering the amount of heat they produce these new laptops run relatively cool. Have you ever run a harddrive out of it's case and touched it? Yeah it gets HOT to the touch, but the laptop's palm rest doesn't get that HOT. It stays warm.
Don't be so picky, enjoy your product.
Also saying there is no point in getting a laptop to use as your core system is purely preference. After getting my laptop I use it as my core system and use my desktop for games and as a storage bin for all my big files.
Also, sorry for being really annoyed by all your comments, the both of you, but I'm sick of people talking before they really understand or even get the jist of the technology and how it works before complaining. Getting 2 gigs of ram from 512 or 1gig won't get you performance gains, but it will make your system run smoother when using programs that are memory hungry or if you are a power user and have many programs open at the same time. The whole "I didn't notice any performance differences after getting 2 gigs, save your money" comments need to go. Go do some reading online or buy a book then you will better understand computers.
The DVD drive is loud you say? Well then do something about it. If you didn't know I will let you know that there are programs out there that control the speed of your cd/dvd rom drives so it doesn't spool up to it's max speed and get really loud. You don't need to run cd/dvd drives at their max speeds unless you are installing, or transferring data. If you are just watching a movie or playing music you just have to run it at a lower speed.
One such program is DriveSpeed which is a package deal with Nero software. Creative has their own dvd/cd drive speed control software. Don't jump the gun without finding out if you can do something about it people come on.
Don't take this offensively, I'm just voicing my feelings as it is pretty frustrating reading all of these false complaints over and over. These comments also deter first-time buyers from getting laptops, when these "problems" aren't even problems at all.
Please make educated complaints after getting to know your computers and why certain things are the way they are.
Cheers and Happy Holidays,
Mike (sorry for being so harsh :D)
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Let me help by giving you some constructive criticism because I don't think you're picky, I just think you're not looking at the laptop in the correct manner.
1. You say it's hard to work smoothly with large files in photoshop.... you've got a 2.1ghz p-m (equal to about a 3.8ghz p4), 2gb of ddr2 533 and you're using a 5400rpm hard drive with 16mb of cache. I work with 500mb-1gb compositions in PS and I can do it with a 1.7 ghz p-m, 1.5gb of ram, and a 5400rpm hard drive w/ an 8mb cache. Ideally, using a 7200rpm drive is MEANT for exactly what you're doing. Performance increases are going to be almost 60-70%.
2. This is a perfect desktop replacement without being a desktop.... I don't know what else you'd want, but you're not going to get a lighter 17" laptop and even though it's light enough to carry around, one of the reasons they call DTR's - DTR's is because they replace your desktop... you don't carry your desktop around.
3. The noise, heat, and those things are completely controllable and are a function of the performance. If you just use powergear correctly at least the cpu auto scale and the heat and noise won't be an issue till you're using the system hard. When you're using the system hard, that's just what you're going to get.
Basically you have no other choice but to go back to a desktop because if the W2 doesn't satisfy you, there isn't a laptop in the world that will. I'm not just exaggerating either... there really is NOTHING that'll work for you because everything you don't like is basically something every laptop will be like. In terms of performance, undervolting your cpu isn't the brightest idea either.
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One thing true, many people who buy ASUS rather than of the shelf are techies, and they expect a lot(ofcourse they paid for that). And that is the image ASUS has, best design and Quality.
But it has some right points without a doubt.
For one, this one has sound issues ASUS did not address yet as everyone knows.
90+% people use mouse when they are at desk and mostly right handed, so it is a design issue with ASUS( ofcourse he should have known about it) having hot air blowing on right side, instead of back.
I agree about HDD, that is choice he took( Hitachi 7200RPMs should have been good choice).
And one thing beyond my understanding in ASUS forum is, why you guys are so eager to comment/ridicule customers/users? This is irresponsible post? He does not even have right to express what he thinks about his laptop? And he cleary explained it is a problem to him, may not be same for any other single soul.
It is good that you explained him what HDD he should have picked and all that. He should have taken advice before, But again, you know the saying "CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT".
IMHO this practise I am seeing ASUS forum actually creating a negative image for ASUS, creating a feeling that ASUS support is bad/ getting bad and scares people away from buying ASUS, which infact I do not think true.
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thank you guys, I underestand your points, and yes probably Asus is getting the super picky customers becasue the customers are paying the supper picky prices:) .
All the points I made I put in caps(THIS IS JUST MY OPINION) ( AT LEAST FOR ME) etc etc etc. I totally agree with PROportable, yes maybe with a 7200 will work better, I dont belive there is a solution for the heat and noise, at least for the way I use the computer, I used fanspeed, centrino hardware control etc... but at this point it does not matter, The timming on the memory sis very slow for 1GB sticks that is hard to match. I am not saying that this is not a pretty laptop, it is good yes very good but is not FOR ME, W2v is just not for me, that is all about. "If you own a car and a bike, then your bike will be GREAT! , if you only has the bike you will start being picky on it! ;)"
AGAIN: W2v is very good, the problem here is that it is not great (FOR ME) to have it as athe main computer.
Happy Holidays! :)
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One thing true, many people who buy ASUS rather than of the shelf are techies, and they expect a lot(ofcourse they paid for that). And that is the image ASUS has, best design and Quality.
You are right!!!! plus the fact that you dont see Asus lappys in any store! at least the huge guys! that makes the lappy to link with the tech-picky-online-customer that is buying without testing the pc in person(most of the cases asus)
Also I wanted to say that I'm free to say whatever is my story with my laptop, I paid for the laptop I tested it and I have the right to say how it was. Plus why I do have to upgrade myself to 7200rpm ??? why I have to use app to tweak the fan? speed? undervolt why? wy I have to upgrade the memory to play smoothly? why I do have to tweak the DVD??? plus is the seeking sound not the spinning! and ablablabalbl blabl ablab (I just wanted to clear my point) and yes I am picky, sorry for my defect! as Asus also have them... or you guys think their prodructs are perfect???
Anyway getting back to normal.... I paid for the ultra-top of the line lappy, Asus should put the best on it, not me. But there is no reason to get angry when someone talk about a bad experiecie with Asus, they are no perfect and I am not perfect so... please ( some of your guys) keep your anger away from a computer forum.
AGAIN for third time and last! W2v is a very good lappy, it is not the right thing for me! thanks ;)
Again cool guys! I like this forum and I really wish you all Happy Holidays! very cool ppl, very smart and hope to stick around :)